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Gameplay => Wish list => Topic started by: Illysia on April 20, 2007, 05:19:04 am

Title: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Illysia on April 20, 2007, 05:19:04 am
I think it would be really nice to have a park with a nice wide path that doesn't turn much or at least too suddenly. This would allow people to auto-walk and chat without worrying about running into things or falling off a ledge and dying. This would also be an excuse to not run everywhere. There would be a place where it is understood that you mostly stroll around and talk. It could also double as a nice picnic/meeting place where friends could meet and enjoy each others company (without a lot of noisy drunks around  ::) ) Not to mention it could have pretty flowers that could be quickly gathered for surprise dates  :love: . It would be a really good chance to create a romantic spot for people, with little places tucked off the beaten path, so they don't have to head out the the BD for it.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Induane on April 20, 2007, 06:46:32 pm
Actually I love this idea.  Not only would it be beautiful, but it would provide some exciting RP opportunities and add more to the immersive feel of the game.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: bilbous on April 20, 2007, 06:59:22 pm
At least until the ho's and graak addicts move in.  :-* :-* >o)
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Jeraphon on April 20, 2007, 07:07:17 pm
There is a Magic Garden already in game. It's not used very much.

There's an expanse of green space behind the temple of Laanx, and it has a gazebo. It also isn't used very much.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Raleigh on April 20, 2007, 07:11:41 pm
At least until the ho's and graak addicts move in.  :-* :-* >o)

I don't think lake or night mushrooms are addictive bro'. Wanna buy some grass?

There are no potheads in Yliakum 'cuz there is no pot dude! :P

And no treehuggers too... or do they exist?  ???

There is a Magic Garden already in game. It's not used very much.

There's an expanse of green space behind the temple of Laanx, and it has a gazebo. It also isn't used very much.

Think big man! I was thinking about a preserve, or about something as large as Battery Park (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_Park). It does not matter when it's coming if it will come, as long as I am still alive and running once it comes of course...
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Induane on April 20, 2007, 07:21:11 pm
Quote
There is a Magic Garden already in game. It's not used very much.

There's an expanse of green space behind the temple of Laanx, and it has a gazebo. It also isn't used very much.

Thats because other than the gazebo the area is flat dull and uninteresting.  Just a tree and boring flat sort of oddly desaturated grass textures and not much to look at.  I think this idea would be for something larger anyways.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Karyuu on April 20, 2007, 08:19:36 pm
So describe exactly what would make the parks more attractive? :]
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: miadon on April 20, 2007, 08:22:58 pm
So describe exactly what would make the parks more attractive? :]
Shrubberies with a little path running down the middle!
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: ThomPhoenix on April 20, 2007, 09:04:40 pm
Blossoming flowers!
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: dying_inside on April 20, 2007, 09:43:14 pm
The park.... A pretty place in the day time where couples gather and stretch out on the grass, find small area's to crawl off too and generally relaxation for all. The idea was for this to be a tranquil place all the time...


However when dusk falls and the shadows take over the local thieves find this a useful landscape to rob innocdent bystanders, rival gangs use the plains as a war ground, the coules dozing together in their hidey holes wake up with a knife in their throats because they are too close to a cutthroats stash, a murderers bone pile, or are simply easy pickings for a young lowlife in the making.

As beautiful as it is in the day.... how do you think the flowers take on such a full red hue?
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Raleigh on April 20, 2007, 09:52:11 pm
Daylight, people go to find peace and walk on the grass

Night, da dudez go to find war, "easy" dough and to smoke some grass...

Except if:

Night, da pooleeze go to nab da dudez and get them in jail, and the people go there to find peace and walk on grass without trouble

Solution: Just have some guards stationed on the park at night, that solves all.

A decent park should have:

Monuments, benches, hippies(oops, wrong place man), some wandering mechants selling food(and catnip too ;) ), lots of space for running, lots of flora, among other things.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Narure on April 20, 2007, 09:56:42 pm
I cnat believe you all forgot buunies! or somthing of the sort at least. Little cute animals, and birds.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Nurahk on April 20, 2007, 10:02:18 pm
Places to set up assassinations <.<
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Narure on April 20, 2007, 10:08:36 pm
yeah, a sun dial under which to 'leave the money, bring no gaurds.'
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Illysia on April 20, 2007, 10:28:08 pm
It would also need some kind of body of water like a lake, maybe even a fountain.   :D But cute animals would really cinch it.  \\o//
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Raleigh on April 20, 2007, 10:45:57 pm
Places to set up assassinations <.<

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dealey_Plaza (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dealey_Plaza)

...

Oops, that isn't an example of a park  :-[... but it was used for it.
/me wonders why so many accidents happen with people tripping off and falling from the Windowless Tower  :whistling:

Nah, anywhere is adequate for it, so don't ask questions if you value your life! One of us is your friend.

A lake? What about filling it with fishes so I can get a fishing rod and go there... Nervous? Go to fishing!
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Illysia on April 21, 2007, 08:46:36 am
The park.... A pretty place in the day time where couples gather and stretch out on the grass, find small area's to crawl off too and generally relaxation for all. The idea was for this to be a tranquil place all the time...


However when dusk falls and the shadows take over the local thieves find this a useful landscape to rob innocdent bystanders, rival gangs use the plains as a war ground, the coules dozing together in their hidey holes wake up with a knife in their throats because they are too close to a cutthroats stash, a murderers bone pile, or are simply easy pickings for a young lowlife in the making.

As beautiful as it is in the day.... how do you think the flowers take on such a full red hue?


Well it seems that the park would need to have rangers. Maybe we should enlist the help of the Rangers of Yliakum.  :D Also, if it were possible. Make the lighting effect the landscaping more, so as dusk approaches everything would start to take on a orangish-red color. As it is, I often overlook sunset when I'm running around town because I don't realize it's happening.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Karyuu on April 21, 2007, 08:49:09 am
There is no real "sunset" in Yliakum due to the Crystal :) The changes are not as pronounced as they are on Earth.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Illysia on April 21, 2007, 08:58:45 am
There is no real "sunset" in Yliakum due to the Crystal :) The changes are not as pronounced as they are on Earth.

Ah well, so much for that idea. Maybe there could be crystals on stands in the park that act like lanterns to light areas up and they would change color in reaction to the change in the Crystal. That would be really neat!  :D
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Vengeance on April 21, 2007, 10:34:34 pm
I like this idea too.  It would be fun if it had a stage for UTM to perform on.  ;)

I hope Talad supports it.  Maybe it will happen.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Illysia on April 22, 2007, 02:18:29 am
I like this idea too.  It would be fun if it had a stage for UTM to perform on.  ;)

I hope Talad supports it.  Maybe it will happen.

That's a really good idea.  :thumbup: I hadn't thought about a stage, that would provide a place for people to showcase their musical instrument skills *cough* when it's implemented *cough*.  \\o//
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Earl_Listbard on April 22, 2007, 02:47:23 am
A winding brick path with beautiful flowers along the sides, a small flowing stream near by, the sweeet chirpping of birds from the lavander peddels of the lowly growing trees. The calmness away from the busteling smithie, somewhere away from the plaza, but in hydlaa, just to be away from the noisy auction-ers. A peaceful place with gentile harp music and the trickeling of water from the nearby stream.....



*EL goes off into a blissful day-dream rant.*
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Narure on April 22, 2007, 11:25:22 am
Lots of fauna that doesnt want to kill you and some non tree/mushroom aka 'pretty' flora would be nice. And as its spring where i am i want to see lots of blossom! Oh and i want to be able to kill the rabbits for a stew... and have cooking implented and have BBQs in the park. Oh and frisbys! bicycles would be nice. I might just go outside now, i wonder what thats like.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Earl_Listbard on April 22, 2007, 03:41:57 pm
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/Darth_Sin/1174180709136.jpg)

Forgive me for advertising another mmorpg here...
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Jeraphon on April 22, 2007, 04:17:00 pm
Fully PvP? That's so awesome!
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Earl_Listbard on April 22, 2007, 04:55:44 pm
I am a lvl 22 taco bell slave in this game, I totally PKed my friend the other day.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: TomT on April 23, 2007, 04:02:07 am
Not sure what a reference for another MMOLRPG has to do with the park idea - maybe someone can split the post or just remove it.

I think the idea of a large park is the best wish list post of the year.  ;D
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: neko kyouran on April 23, 2007, 04:34:37 am
A humorous joke on the idea that rather than trying to incorporate all this realism into the game, people should instead go play outside, the most "realistic" game there is.  A tidbit offtopic post that as long as it stays like that and it doesn't derail the topic of this thread any more, will be fine and I don't see the need to clean it up yet. 

As for the park discussion at hand, I think a wonderful spot for it, would be developing that area with the gazebo into the beginnings of the park zone.  All that wide open space there just itching for development, twould be cool.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: .:ZEN:. on April 29, 2007, 09:38:31 am
squirrels, but being planeshift and the cutest animal i'd have do you with baby planshiftian penguins !!! :innocent:
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Pizzasgood on April 30, 2007, 04:45:56 am
Tux is universal :thumbup:

Another thing that would be interesting is hedge mazes.  Toss in a couple spots with that one-way paint and maybe some secret passages (some non-dense walls, right-click able ground that reveals a tunnel, etc.)

If there's a big pond/small-lake, have boats (though that may take a bit to implement unless they are not controllable and just follow one of several set courses).
Of course, you'd also have to have fishing in that case.

A park would also need a field for whatever sports get played in Hydlaa.

Finally, there should be a big honkin' sandbox for the youngsters, and maybe some treehouses (with ziplines between them?)
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Illysia on April 30, 2007, 05:13:54 am
Finally, there should be a big honkin' sandbox for the youngsters, and maybe some treehouses (with ziplines between them?)

That's a great idea! It would give the kids in Yliakum somewhere to go besides the tavern or Harn's and something to do besides kill and train. If there's a sandbox there should always be sand castles. Building sand castles could be neat and it could use the intelligence skill, afterall you gotta be smart to find the right water/sand ratio.  :D Not to mention there would be more than a few big "kids" who would love to make sand castles.  :whistling:
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: .:ZEN:. on May 01, 2007, 08:46:37 am
what about those foot paddled swan boats :P
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Manar on May 01, 2007, 09:07:36 am
It might be good to note that exactly such a garden area is already mentioned in-game.
Information that's been there a while, I think. Although perhaps not very easy to find.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: .:ZEN:. on May 01, 2007, 11:29:31 am
Fully PvP? That's so awesome!

whats the link for this game??
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Karyuu on May 01, 2007, 11:48:43 am
whats the link for this game??

(https://www.cs.tcd.ie/~piglowsl/lukasz/images/1a.jpg) (http://weblog.garyturner.net/switch/index.htm)
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: miadon on May 01, 2007, 11:56:13 am
If only RL had a real off switch :\
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: .:ZEN:. on May 01, 2007, 01:37:17 pm
 ::| oops i mean the link for the game that was mentioned earilier :   OUTSIDE
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Karyuu on May 01, 2007, 06:06:08 pm
.:ZEN:., that is the link.. :)
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: zanzibar on May 02, 2007, 03:30:16 am
It might be good to note that exactly such a garden area is already mentioned in-game.
Information that's been there a while, I think. Although perhaps not very easy to find.

There are several "gardens" but they aren't what the thread starter had in mind.  Imagine something more scenic and winding.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: neko kyouran on May 02, 2007, 04:22:50 am
And now that its finally May.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CodTHObr8o

Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Manar on May 02, 2007, 07:35:28 am
There are several "gardens" but they aren't what the thread starter had in mind.  Imagine something more scenic and winding.
I wasn't talking about the gardens that are ingame now. There a lot of information you can find ingame, about area's that are yet to come.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Earl_Listbard on May 03, 2007, 10:32:31 pm
If only RL had a real off switch :\
It has an off switch.  :D But its not a button, its a trigger. :)

(http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/HALLOWEEN_pumpking_suicide.jpg)

/endrandomness

okay enough with the blah blah parks, don't we already have a gazebo?(sp?)
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Vampire_Orchid on May 03, 2007, 11:29:10 pm
What makes a park? Simple...cute tables and little ponds...bird bathes and benches...gradens and flowers...Different assortment of trees. How about a stand with a npc where you could buy things...jewlery, flowers ect. Wooden swing sets. Small fountains...rock paths, fences, sandy areas, gazeboes...not behind laanx hidden away from the world. Of corse these are just a few suggestions... ;D I think a park or two would be a wonderful addition! And more then a great chance to roleplay and have an area to hold rping events!!
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: zanzibar on May 04, 2007, 12:05:59 am
What makes a park? Simple...cute tables and little ponds...bird bathes and benches...gradens and flowers...Different assortment of trees. How about a stand with a npc where you could buy things...jewlery, flowers ect. Wooden swing sets. Small fountains...rock paths, fences, sandy areas, gazeboes...not behind laanx hidden away from the world. Of corse these are just a few suggestions... ;D I think a park or two would be a wonderful addition! And more then a great chance to roleplay and have an area to hold rping events!!


The parks I like have plants and trees and paths, but no tables or vendors or artifical ponds.  That's just me though.

(http://www.desktopscenes.com/Scenes%20from%20Muir%20Woods%20(2003)/The%20Forest%20Goes%20On.jpg)
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Illysia on May 04, 2007, 01:21:07 am
okay enough with the blah blah parks, don't we already have a gazebo?(sp?)

If it was enough we wouldn't be discussing this at length. Obviously these plans are bigger than a lone Gazebo.  ::)
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: ThomPhoenix on May 04, 2007, 01:24:41 am
::| oops i mean the link for the game that was mentioned earilier :   OUTSIDE
:D
At first I had to laugh, but now I'm just disturbed by it :P
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Vampire_Orchid on May 04, 2007, 02:24:34 am
Since this is a wish list....it may all just be, wishful thinking .... :innocent:
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Under the moon on May 05, 2007, 01:26:17 am
/select path --> /follow path (allows talking while moving along a safe, predefined path.)
/follow <character> (Same as above. Only works while leader is walking, and in the safe park)
/walk random (makes your character stroll randomly at half speed)
/smell <object> (flowers, etc..)

A good reason to have a park is for mental and physical stamina regeneration (AKA, relaxing). Problem is, no point in that when all stamina regens in less than five minutes. Unless there is an actual use to a place, no one will use it no matter how pretty it looks.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: .:ZEN:. on May 05, 2007, 06:18:04 am
what about

/cuddle <animal>
/pet <animal>
/stroke <animal>

no park is complete without a small petting zoo ^^
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Illysia on May 05, 2007, 08:31:55 am
/select path --> /follow path (allows talking while moving along a safe, predefined path.)
/follow <character> (Same as above. Only works while leader is walking, and in the safe park)
/walk random (makes your character stroll randomly at half speed)
/smell <object> (flowers, etc..)

A good reason to have a park is for mental and physical stamina regeneration (AKA, relaxing). Problem is, no point in that when all stamina regens in less than five minutes. Unless there is an actual use to a place, no one will use it no matter how pretty it looks.


I love the follow idea \\o// , I've been wondering if that was possible, since it would make leading noobs easier. For practical use it would probably be better if you can get exclusive items from the park. That's the main reason why many travel to the BD and struggle to get to the winch.

Maybe there could be an artist in the park that could teach painting *coughs*once implemented*coughs* and could sell painting for houses *coughs*once implemented*coughs*. That would be nice.

Also maybe there could be stat bounus in certain areas of the park, like for intelligence. For instance if you go to a quiet spot in the park, put something in mind and work on it there and learn faster. I'm sure not all crafting will need to be done in one spot, like by the furnace) throughout the whole process. I'm not sure since I'm no crafter and I don't really understand how that work.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Raleigh on May 05, 2007, 10:05:44 am
Unless there is an actual use to a place, no one will use it no matter how pretty it looks.

There is a way to make a park full of green and nature, be useful(at least for some of the characters):
 
Legalize it!  :P

*Annera would probably think "Government should not interfere, specially when they forbid one think and allows other, both being addictive and bad"

Otherwise... if there is enough vegetation, it will be a great place for sharpshooters with crossbows ready to kill the bounty, or for people to run from the cops.

Now on more solid grounds:


I could list more skills that could be improved on a park, if there is so much need of appeasing the "achievers" and not only the "socializers"
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: .:ZEN:. on May 05, 2007, 04:06:46 pm
Unless there is an actual use to a place, no one will use it no matter how pretty it looks.

There is a way to make a park full of green and nature, be useful(at least for some of the characters):
 
Legalize it!  :P

*Annera would probably think "Government should not interfere, specially when they forbid one think and allows other, both being addictive and bad"

Otherwise... if there is enough vegetation, it will be a great place for sharpshooters with crossbows ready to kill the bounty, or for people to run from the cops.

Now on more solid grounds:

  • Free development of brown way by "Being in communion with nature" for the PS "vegans"
  • Free development of Endurance, Strenght and Agility by walking and having places to train and practice sports(Even in our capitalistic society it is very possible to improve your own strenght without paying a "trainer", this is one of the main bad things about Planeshift current system, the other is "kill 1000000 times the same rogue to become a master in mining")
  • Free development of empathy as well, if you approach the animals that live on it
  • Free development of perform skills by going on a stage, and slow development of charisma as well

I could list more skills that could be improved on a park, if there is so much need of appeasing the "achievers" and not only the "socializers"

Yeah I really agree with the second one

and well     I      will use the park and so will most of my friends here...   There... people will use it now... happy?
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: LARAGORN on May 05, 2007, 04:59:33 pm
I think this would be a complete waste of the Dev's time and effort, creating a new map for a park just seems silly to me. We aleady have huge parks in-game, BD roads 1&2, Oja roads 1&2 are some of the biggest parks I have ever seen. Add a few trees and flower gardens here and there, and there ya go, a nice perty park for folks to waste time in. For those who think it is really needed, I believe another game has been suggested and I think it is on sale right now due to the new release of "OUTSIDE- Park Edition" Better hurry before it is sold out :P
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Illyria on May 05, 2007, 05:43:18 pm
We aleady have huge parks in-game, BD roads 1&2, Oja roads 1&2 are some of the biggest parks I have ever seen. Add a few trees and flower gardens here and there, and there ya go, a nice perty park for folks to waste time in.
Ehm, yeah they aer nice, but as a park for stolling in? "Hey Hun lets have a pick nick! But watch out, you don't want that ulber behind you taking your bread" xD
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: LARAGORN on May 05, 2007, 06:31:15 pm
That just doubles your exersize  :P  nothing like a nice run in a park to get the old blood a pumpin.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: zanzibar on May 05, 2007, 06:33:07 pm
I'm wondering if the majority of the posters in this thread have ever been to a real park.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Illyria on May 05, 2007, 06:46:14 pm
I'm wondering if the majority of the posters in this thread have ever been to a real park.
;) I think that depends on "Where in the word and which park" you choose, also what time off day ;)
On a hot summer day BIG parks are cleaned very early in the morning, put a few homeless out of it and by midday it's full of happy (so it seems) smiling people haveing a good time (again so it seems), and dawn those poeple leave and by midnight homeless return and take a nap  :whistling: that's one example

Now in Planeshift I've only encountered one (very friendly) 'homeless' [Don't got bickering 'noone owns a real home in PS' you know what i mean ;)] So that 'problem' we would have, Also for the junkies... Well the only damaging drug in PS is either alcohol or lake mushroom, we may have a few probs with that BUT  :lol: I'm sure the PS government isn't that harsh to let them get beaten up by 'city guards', So the junkies won't have that much to complain about aslong as they stay clear of robbing people (And because alcohol is so cheap and lake mushrooms still grow in the wild, not a real reason to get all 'robby' ;) )

 :D So it's pretty much possible to have a nice 'American Dream' kinda park in PS
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: zanzibar on May 05, 2007, 06:47:28 pm
A golf green with benches and monkey bars does not a park make.

(http://www.doortodoorairporter.com/Images/redwood%20park.jpg)
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Illyria on May 05, 2007, 06:56:01 pm
A golf green with benches and monkey bars does not a park make.

(http://www.doortodoorairporter.com/Images/redwood%20park.jpg)
We (I mean I but We sounds more convincing xD) Call that a Natural park  ;) One  which is ment for it's beauty of nature (as far as that goes with highways beside it)
Such a park is not ment to carry the burden of Ciry folks who seek relaxation  :D /me smiles "luckily I'm no city folk"
[Though, some annoying people think it's the [purpose of such parks to be there for taking photo's of it , every animal they *snap* every big tree "Hun stand beside it"*snap* öh look a iece of land with freeway *snap* "smell the air" *snap* ïsn't this beautiful?"*snap**snap**snap* ]
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: zanzibar on May 05, 2007, 07:21:01 pm
I once got lost in 60,000 acres of uncharted wilderness.  Fortunately I was only 8 miles from the edge of civilization and I was able to find my way out.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Mordraugion on May 05, 2007, 07:22:25 pm
Definitions of park on the Web:

    * a large area of land preserved in its natural state as public property; "there are laws that protect the wildlife in this park"
    * a piece of open land for recreational use in an urban area; "they went for a walk in the park"
    * ballpark: a facility in which ball games are played (especially baseball games); "take me out to the ballpark"
    * Scottish explorer in Africa (1771-1806)
    * parking lot: a lot where cars are parked
    * place temporarily; "park the car in the yard"; "park the children with the in-laws"; "park your bag in this locker"
    * a gear position that acts as a parking brake; "the put the car in park and got out"
    * maneuver a vehicle into a parking space; "Park the car in front of the library"; "Can you park right here?"
      wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

You're all correct so no need to start quibbling
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Induane on May 05, 2007, 07:27:05 pm
Yea I agree with that last part Illyria.  People bring cameras and pose and think they are off in wildlife.  I guess I sort of understand why some people bring cameras, but I prefer not to.  Last few times I've went camping, its just been me, a tent, a jug of water, and some food.  Prolonged outings I bring along a portable brita(tm) water filter.  That way I just need a canteen and I can fill up at any stream or lake.  I go without any other technology because usually thats what I'm trying to escape... people.. and technology. 

On a side note, I've noticed a few things about camping out.  For one, I require less sleep.  I can go to bed at 1 am or so and still wake up at 6 refreshed and feeling great.  I don't toss and turn, I don't lay awake for hours thinking, I just go to sleep and wake up.  I'm not sure if its the slower gradual wakeup from the sun slowly rising or what but I can't help but feel when I am out there that I'm not missing something by living like that.  In those moments I am happy and free, and I dread coming back to the [un]real world and rejoining society. 

I love computers  and technology, and yet when I'm out in forests or large prairies (Kansas has one of North Americas only remaining tall grass prairie's) I simply don't miss them.  I don't feel like watching TV or sitting down at the computer, I don't feel like going out to a movie, or out to a nice restaurant or bar, its not the distracting sort of happy, its a deeper happiness.  I don't know any other way of explaining it. 

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I'm wondering if the majority of the posters in this thread have ever been to a real park.

Its hard to say, I'd think most people have been to real parks in some way, but I'm not sure how many actually experience it.  Being out in nature is somewhat of a religious experience for me, and I find that no matter what, I can always go back to the woods and be myself and calm down.  Its comforting, calming, and natural feeling.  Even though alone in the dark in woods I have a sort of special fear of things coming to eat me or attack me or bite me (like spiders or snakes) it doesn't "really" bother me. 

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A golf green with benches and monkey bars does not a park make.

I couldn't agree more.  I think places like that, while they are referred to as parks, would be more aptly just called "recreational areas".  Open places where you can play games and the like or stroll around enjoying the day.  These aren't bad places, in fact some are absolutely wonderful and beautiful, but its a different sort of park.  On the other hand, Mordraugion makes a good point, in that in the end its not worth arguing about semantics and nomenclature.  We can call things by different names, in the end everyone just sees what makes sense for them in the words they read. 

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I once got lost in 60,000 acres of uncharted wilderness.  Fortunately I was only 8 miles from the edge of civilization and I was able to find my way out.

Aye, I've been lost once or twice myself, though I have not idea the size of the wilderness area.  Its a baffling, frightening, and yet somehow rejuvenating experience to have to use some wits and a bit more natural sense to find your way through unfamiliar territory.  Taking unknown routes places I think leads us to experiences we'd never find otherwise, and in the end its usually worth it.

Also, I like the picture in the above posts, but when I am out in areas like that I kind of feel bad, like adding these paths and bridges somehow scars the land.  Its not just nature that truly exists off the beaten path; I think happiness resides there too, and in the end, happiness is my ultimate goal.  I just wish it was easier to obtain sometimes.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Illyria on May 05, 2007, 07:27:19 pm
I once got lost in 60,000 acres of uncharted wilderness.  Fortunately I was only 8 miles from the edge of civilization and I was able to find my way out.
::| Blair witch... went that through your head?
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: zanzibar on May 05, 2007, 09:31:23 pm
I once got lost in 60,000 acres of uncharted wilderness.  Fortunately I was only 8 miles from the edge of civilization and I was able to find my way out.
::| Blair witch... went that through your head?

I was more worried about getting more lost than I already was.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: mufler on May 07, 2007, 08:55:14 pm
i huge water fall!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Illysia on May 08, 2007, 12:44:19 am
i huge water fall!!!!!!!!!

We already have one of those. Maybe a small one though.  :D And maybe you can row a boat under it. That would be fun.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: mufler on May 08, 2007, 06:19:55 pm
oh lol sorry ^^ yes and under is a nice little cave with a man selling flowers :D
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Xyitan Nolas on May 23, 2007, 03:37:06 am
i huge water fall!!!!!!!!!

No! The last thing we need is amother one of those huge lag inducing decorations. Don't get me wrong, I like details, and I like waterfalls, but the lag both limits my ability to enjoy them and troubles me when I am in the area for other reasons.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: bilbous on May 23, 2007, 06:01:20 pm
Maybe such an area could be separately instanced and randomly generated so that you and your group could all enter the same instance and wander to your hearts content.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Pizzasgood on May 24, 2007, 04:50:22 am
This is called "PlaneShift," and I've seen (in-game) the Death Realm referred to as another plane.  So maybe there are a bunch of other planes.  Maybe one of them is unstable and infinite.  So when you enter it, you can wander for ever and ever and ever, and it just keeps generating random heightmaps and stuff.  As for unique instances, to meet up with friends and such, that could be done by having "coordinates", either within the plane itself, or within a "region" of planes.  As in, an "infinite" number of similar planes exist within two meters of eachother through the Z direction or something.

To visualize that, imagine living in a 2d plane.  All you know is left-right and forward-backward.  Well, someone could be in a similar situation a meter above you, and neither of you would know the other exists.  There could be an infinite number of such things in just that meter.  Even a nanometer would be enough to separate them into their own "universes".  Expand that into three or four dimensions, and you could have an infinite number of "planes" "stacked" on each other in some direction we can't perceive.

To reach it, maybe you have some crystal or something that you align a certain way.  It could have notches, so you can "dial in" a plane.  So, like with a radio or IRC, you just have to know which "channel" your friend is on to join up.

One problem is that if it's randomly generated and infinite, it can only store so much of itself at once, so if you stroll too far, the stuff you already saw would be discarded and unrecoverable.  Thus, anyone who comes in after that would have to pop up within a certain distance from you, or else have some kind of "seamless randomization" so that their own random stuff would meld into yours as they approach.  The amorphous behavior of the land is already explained by the instability, so that much is okay.  It's just a pain for the coders.



What I want to see is the equivalent of real-world forests.  As in something with actual trees, that you can walk between or maybe climb, not a wall of wood like the one by the magic shop.  And not small ones either.  I'm talking at least as big as those road maps, maybe bigger.  With slight variations in the trees and foliage at differing places, and small streams and brooks, and occasional meadows or caves.  People think it's easy to get lost in the big roads to Oja and BD.  Bah.  They have giant landmarks and big hills.  With a huge forest, visibility would be severely limited.  Without a compass, maintaining a direction would be very difficult.  You have to turn to traverse around trees and stuff (unless you straff a bunch).  It would be awesome.  And then you could maybe have an entire villiage up in the trees, with wooden causeways linking the trees and stuff.   8)


'Conventional' parks would be good to have too, of course.  I just wouldn't bother with them much unless there was some interesting equipment there, or some kind of events (bands, sports, etc.).  I prefer the big wilderness stuff.  A park feels too much like a zoo, unless it's really big.  Even then, they have an unnatural and artificial feeling that I don't really like.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: zanzibar on May 24, 2007, 04:54:26 am
Existence of magic = anything is possible and no explanation is really needed.
Title: Re: Parks for strolling in
Post by: Pizzasgood on May 24, 2007, 05:17:36 am
Yeah, but that's cheap.  Some explanation with a little "magic" is better.  After all, there's no such thing as magic, even in fantasy.  It's just aspects of physics that either don't comply with our perception of it, or that we just haven't figured out yet.  Even when there's "magic", stuff still happens for a reason.  There are different rules, but rules none the less.  And knowing, or at least glimpsing, those rules makes things far more interesting and realistic than just saying "it's magic, don't worry about it".