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Re: This may be improved
« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2006, 07:44:05 am »
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/original

I understand the concept of originality perfectly, and conceptually nothing has been original since the creation of the universe.

Sorry to get all technical, but yeah, I have no problem with something being as original as it can be these days.  My main point is you shouldn't discard a good idea just because somebody else thought of it first.  I keep on hearing this "don't suggest things because it's in another game" stuff, but honestly, people are generally suggesting things from very successful MMORPG's, there's a reason why these games are so successful.  I realize that PS is a roleplaying game, and you don't want to turn it into WoW with people speaking 1337, but that doesn't mean that all elements from these games are bad.
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Re: This may be improved
« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2006, 09:04:19 am »
I take Phinehas and your opinion into consideration and conclude, yes, originality is hard to come by, but as my motto has always been "nothing is impossible" I wont seize to defend my opinion.

John80sk, I perfectly understand your opinion and originality is sure hard to come by these days, but if no one had hopes to originality, how far would we have gone today?
PS is a roleplaying game and we try to make it as realistic as possible. I respect your opinion. My opinion is, at least refine an idea further if one's reached a dead end (a true dead end, which I don't believe in and is considered in the eyes the beholder) and at least present something to be further worked on in the future. Right now the brainstorming "appears" to be at nill among MMORPG's and I hope Planeshift does, and wants to make a difference.



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Re: This may be improved
« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2006, 10:34:32 am »
2. No maps, it's so much more fun to run around then have everything charted out for you, then what's the point of exploring?
The map should be made that you can onl see the places youve been on it and you have to explore to unlock more

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« Reply #33 on: August 23, 2006, 11:22:02 am »
even then, not only doesn't it work your memory, but the potential for screenshots etc would make it a liability...

what could work is maybe something like paint or some such crude app, so you can draw your own...

Yea, of course I'm kidding.. you can do that already by opening paint... or a box of crayons...


I have no idea how the application for mapping (as in dev makes place for you to run around, not a map of the terrtain, but the terrain as a map file) ps works, but I was just remembering how in a crude mapping app i used to use, I would often put a smaller scale map, by copying all the brushes at once except wals & sky &/or ceiling, paste as group, scale waaaaay down. losing a few or a lot of smaller brushes that were no longer needed & putting all or most (but usually all) to more simple texture/s (occasionally for bigger maps shapes would be too many brushes too small to work so i would replace buildings with blocks and such)....
Not sure if thats feasable in ps, as it did't work out great for me so often... but more to the point; when it did work it looked awesome, and let players get more of an overall lay of a specific terrain (in my mind I'm thinking hydlaa of course, as it is the so developped to build a model of, like in a city hall or such) while still leaving those less old with confusion & a spark of awareness of surroundings... But I would be a little bthered that screenies could be abused by adding what's where on them as spoilers...
There would be no reason to make a mini of a road. Maybe oja or arena for library..

But here's what this idea has pinwheeled into:

A mini DR map to play ingame as a boardgame!

"You advance 5 spaces, you fell off a ledge."

I would love for anone who likes that idea to start a wishlist thread discussing how an idea like that might work whether doable or not.

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« Reply #34 on: August 23, 2006, 07:29:09 pm »
What Anne's trying to say is that WoW isn't a good example for a groundbreaking game. Sure, WoW is a good game but it's concept is built upon old ideas, a safe investment.

Now, Planeshift isn't in need of a safe investment and that makes old ideas unuseful. Instead of trying to make your favorite game. You can affect the development through your OWN ideas, nothing is impossible.

WoW sucked cuz it had no real freedom and much more could have been done to teh game to make it better, the ideas sucked. The role playing servers were a joke cuz with the restrictions you couldnt truly role play.

I will clarify things

1. WoW is not my favorite game, if it was i wouldnt be here and trying plane shift or even looked for a role playing game and praising the creater for trying to place ideas into the game that should have been in WoW and many other MMORPG.

2. WoW is a pretty version of diablo and took many ideas from other MMORPGs and that is why i started hating it because it had many old ideas and bad ones.

3. WoW and possibly other MMORPG games have a great player and camera control system and this cannot really be denied nore can it be made better from what i have seen. I have only played WoW but it did have a great camera and player control  system.

I only liek a few things from WoW which are not even part of the game or the idea of the game, i actually tried to think of better ideas which i did but i never posted them cuy i knew the producers of WoW would most likelx not implement it or realise how good the idea was, or possibly not read it.

At least here im putting in an effort cuy i believe this game has great ideas and structure and very original and also hoping that people would take soem opinions or ideas into consideration as i believe teh creaters/dvelopers are listening.

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« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2006, 12:21:52 am »
What Anne's trying to say is that WoW isn't a good example for a groundbreaking game. Sure, WoW is a good game but it's concept is built upon old ideas, a safe investment.

Now, Planeshift isn't in need of a safe investment and that makes old ideas unuseful. Instead of trying to make your favorite game. You can affect the development through your OWN ideas, nothing is impossible.

WoW sucked cuz it had no real freedom and much more could have been done to teh game to make it better, the ideas sucked. The role playing servers were a joke cuz with the restrictions you couldnt truly role play.

I will clarify things

1. WoW is not my favorite game, if it was i wouldnt be here and trying plane shift or even looked for a role playing game and praising the creater for trying to place ideas into the game that should have been in WoW and many other MMORPG.

2. WoW is a pretty version of diablo and took many ideas from other MMORPGs and that is why i started hating it because it had many old ideas and bad ones.

3. WoW and possibly other MMORPG games have a great player and camera control system and this cannot really be denied nore can it be made better from what i have seen. I have only played WoW but it did have a great camera and player controlĀ  system.

I only liek a few things from WoW which are not even part of the game or the idea of the game, i actually tried to think of better ideas which i did but i never posted them cuy i knew the producers of WoW would most likelx not implement it or realise how good the idea was, or possibly not read it.

At least here im putting in an effort cuy i believe this game has great ideas and structure and very original and also hoping that people would take soem opinions or ideas into consideration as i believe teh creaters/dvelopers are listening.
I'm sorry to be harsh... Ok, I'm lying. Frankly, it took me five minutes to get the courage to read past the mispelt "the" in your post. If you either can't spell "the" or are typing so fast that you mispelt it, then either your opinion isn't worth much, or you're just spouting off steam. As it is, you're just spouting off steam. Go to the Plaza for that.

Back to the previous discussion on origniality:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/original

I understand the concept of originality perfectly, and conceptually nothing has been original since the creation of the universe.
I didn't mean to insult your understanding... this time.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/original
My main point is you shouldn't discard a good idea just because somebody else thought of it first. I keep on hearing this "don't suggest things because it's in another game" stuff, but honestly, people are generally suggesting things from very successful MMORPG's, there's a reason why these games are so successful.
I think they say that to discourage the rather thoughtless, "Hey, we should such-and-such like in that other game..."

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Re: This may be improved
« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2006, 07:46:39 am »
2. No maps, it's so much more fun to run around then have everything charted out for you, then what's the point of exploring?
The map should be made that you can onl see the places youve been on it and you have to explore to unlock more
The map could be made into a "decaying one" getting blurry as it ages, but if you visit the same place, or somewhere unknown, it is re-written.

As a sidenote: This is Original, but there are so many definitions of "Original". I can't ramble them all up as I don't have time for wordgames.

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« Reply #37 on: August 26, 2006, 01:52:00 am »
As a sidenote: This is Original, but there are so many definitions of "Original". I can't ramble them all up as I don't have time for wordgames.
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Re: This may be improved
« Reply #38 on: August 26, 2006, 06:42:45 pm »
As a sidenote: This is Original, but there are so many definitions of "Original". I can't ramble them all up as I don't have time for wordgames.
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« Reply #39 on: August 28, 2006, 12:56:34 am »
As a sidenote: This is Original, but there are so many definitions of "Original". I can't ramble them all up as I don't have time for wordgames.
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Re: This may be improved
« Reply #40 on: September 01, 2006, 04:09:27 pm »
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I'm sorry to be harsh... Ok, I'm lying. Frankly, it took me five minutes to get the courage to read past the mispelt "the" in your post. If you either can't spell "the" or are typing so fast that you mispelt it, then either your opinion isn't worth much, or you're just spouting off steam. As it is, you're just spouting off steam. Go to the Plaza for that.

Sorry I am on dialup, i do not have the time to write out a large post perfectly  :P