Death

[Feline Prince]

Well, if nobody would die, the world would be overcrowded. Or there were no children anymore, only a bunch of very, very old people who talk about "good old times". No change, no new ideas, that would be pretty boring. Death is a part of life, and it's good like that.
I only hope to lead a long and good life, that one day before I die I can say I'm happy with it. And that I don't have to lie in hospital for years in old age connected to 1000 machines without being able to do anything. That wouldn't make life longer but only dying.
Life is dangerous, it ends always deadly...
You shouldn't think about it all the time, that changes nothing.

Yeah, no death = no sex

[Quitarias]

A serious discusion about the meaning of life and death reduced to a toilet and sex joke......Now that tends to get to me badly.
personaly the Quantum imortality theory proves that we may never die because we never meet death in the parlel universes.But what effect does age have.Are we allways the same age in the paralel universes?If not does the knowlege cary over.That would also explain why somepeople are much more understanding than others.Or why some people have talent and others dont.
But in seeing that theory i wonder is death real.Sure it happens but if it leaves no mark on me in the paralel universes then is it truly real.And in thinking at that point if the paralel universes dont effect me are they real?Also this would lead to a pretty safe asumption that we die but not in all universes only in this one.Thus resulting in the proof of the reality of death and falsness of imortality.
Also this would prove the Shrodinger cat theory.We are both alive and dead at that very same point.If so does the the matter of death realy make a difrence to us.
Is it realy that big of a deal if 1 me in a million dies?
Alsowe can look at the matter of death in a moral frame.Does death have any impact on you when you are alive? NO.Do you exist after death? NO.So thinking like that what difrence does death make besides the obvious mental impact on others?None whatsoever.

[Feline Prince]

Alsowe can look at the matter of death in a moral frame.Does death have any impact on you when you are alive? NO.Do you exist after death? NO.So thinking like that what difrence does death make besides the obvious mental impact on others?None whatsoever.

So why moan about a potty joke while having a 'serious' discussion about the meaning of life and death? There have been more 'serious' discusions about it then you can shake a stick at and we are non the wiser. Maybe you need a new point of veiw.

[Quitarias]

Actualy dont take it so personaly.I was a bit angry when i wrote that and definetly to agresive.Well still you cant say thet joke helped any.
And for that matter i didnt get the funny part of it.What does death and sex have to do with each other....Besides the necrofiliacs point of view.

[Feline Prince]

If people dont die, poeple dont need to be born, if people dont need to be born, people dont need to have sex.

[Illyria]

people dont need to have sex.

xD Ever heard of "prevention", we DO need to have it, but not always with consequences

[Induane]

Aye there are definitely needs beyond procreation that is for certain.  Perhaps desire is purely an evolved biochemical reaction designed for the purpose of continuing the species, but then again why are so many acts that are often sexually desirable employ methods that don't involve even the risk of procreation?

And in other things... thanks all for the responses, they help in a weird way I suppose, particularly when I realize that I'm not alone in some of these trains of thoughts.  I really appreciate it everyone

[bilbous]

 Apropos sex<-->death connection, have you never heard of orgasms being called "the little death?"

Personally I'm torn between a post-life visit to earthworm city (non-existence) and my grey blob -- reality doesn't exist theory. Never worry about it overmuch.

[zanzibar]

Am I the only one who ever feels like this? Is something wrong with me?

I use to stay awake at night every so often when I was a child, terrorized by the thoughts you're having.  It stopped when I was about eleven and I realized I can't change it, so why worry about it?

Part of the answer is realizing there's nothing wrong with an unanswered question.  The question itself can be more important and more meaningful than the answer.  But why ask what it means to be dead instead of what it means to be alive?  Everyone dies.  It's natural, and I don't see why it should be feared.

Einstein was a genuis. God doesn't exist, after going to a catholic school for 7 years teaches you that. Ive never worried about death. My only quake about it would be the people i leave behind. Maybe its because i'm a lazy sod and not existing seems far easier. As far as i can tell, dying of any other thing than old age is very painful or very hard and time consuming to set up, so I'm gonna leave old age do the trick and try not to think to much about it till then, just try and enjoy myself and do what I can to get others to do the same.

I think it's better to say that if God does exist, then God is not like anyone preaches it to be - except for perhaps the Humanists.

I do not fear death, i fear old age...

I fear the fact i will lose control of myself, be in pain, and need someone to help me do anything.

Nothing to fear in death since its gonna happen sooner or later... you may or may not get old but your going to die

What does it mean to die if not to lose who you are?

If people dont die, poeple dont need to be born, if people dont need to be born, people dont need to have sex.

I think there's a rather obvious response to this.

[Feline Prince]

What does it mean to die if not to lose who you are?

Makes me think whats the point in living if your not going to die? With no stimulant to survive everything would become stagnant.

[Illyria]

   Metal is forever So don't worry to much about death

[Kalika]

transformation

"He ruled a place of fear and darkness, the shadowlands. He took Persephone, daughter of Demeter, into the underworld. Demeter would not allow anything to grow on the earth and it became barren until Persephone's safe return.

A compromise was reached where she spent part of the year in the underworld and part of year on earth, so we have the seasons of summer and winter."

the myth of hades and persephone....

im not sure if im any help...


but in order for birth death is necessary...

i cant say if there is an afterlife...adn i wont make any assumptions
i personally believe in reincarnation
but thats for another day

jsut think of all the plants that die during the winter
its the cycle of life

its sad a sad and melancholy time
but soon the season will change

and the sun will shine on all the plants
and they'll grow again

if the oringal plant hadnt died the new one could never have been born
and though we mourn the loss of one, we can celebrate the joy of another


edit-heres another little snippet i found
"The first-mentioned symbol suggested the planetary character of the Pluto mind by the circle, floating above the open cup. Out of individual tragedies and out of the very death of all cultures — but freed from them — we can witness the global reality of the mind, in which we all, thinking men and women, to whatever degree, "live, move and have our being." "