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Abemore

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This is why EQ sucks.
« on: July 28, 2003, 07:41:10 am »
In this thread, please post any reason you have for why Everquest is a crappy game.

If you have something good to say about Everquest, save it for another thread.  This thread is only for showing why it sucks.

I\'ll go first :)

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one time i was playing crappy everquest and i was inside a house in a field browsing through some merchants goods. Well, I happened to glance down at the chat window to find that I was being killed by some kind of a griffin. When I finally tried to escape it was too late.

How did this happen? Well, apparently the griffin was flying past the house and, using its x-ray vision, saw me through the wall of the house. This, of course, angered the creature to the point that it abandoned the laws of physics and passed through the wall in order to secretly silently kill me. All the while, I was painstakingly searching through the merchants goods totaly unaware that my body was being torn to pieces. Some indication other than a line of text would have been nice.
although, i guess only music was working (no sound effects) on my computer, this doesn\'t change the fact that EQ sucks for allowing a griffin to fly through the wall of a house and kill me without so much as peep out of the merchant... the bastard.

Everyone join in.  If you have a reason, post it.
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2003, 07:50:33 am »
okay, I\'ve got another...

What\'s up with that interface?  Who ever heard of a mouselook where you have to right-click and drag to look around?

now someone else go... I\'ve got a million.
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2003, 08:22:09 am »
aaah, eq is just boring.  I guess i never had patience to go further than 11th level.  I kept going up, then killed, then dropped a few levels and over again.  Plus I once wanted to make my guilds armor(uniform) and they required some items for it.  I had so much trouble finding these items, I looked for weeks.  I found some, but then I find out that the clothes I am trying to make is not even worth it cause it just sucks.

However, currently EQ is better than Planeshift :), but lets see how long that lasts.
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2003, 11:34:40 am »
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What\'s up with that interface?  Who ever heard of a mouselook where you have to right-click and drag to look around?

I have, you never heard of Arx Fatalis? Has the same system, allthough there you can also choose between full-mouselook (no holding of buttons to look around) or the one you described.

I find that it works very good and would like to see such a system incorporated in PlaneShift aswell.
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2003, 04:20:06 pm »
EQ seems to lack an XYZ axis.  An orc that\'s under Kelethin can still hit me even if I\'m on top of the highest house of the city.

It also makes exceptions for monsters to go through things marked as objects, since they are not players, they\'re walking objects, and they\'re etheral...

I hope EQ2 sucks less, I wanna be a merchant!!
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2003, 06:44:08 am »
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I have, you never heard of Arx Fatalis?
nope.
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I find that it works very good and would like to see such a system incorporated in PlaneShift aswell.
careful there Keldorn.  Nothing positive in this thread.  Please do not wish such a horrible system on the PS community.  A simple toggle key is what the public demands.

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EQ seems to lack an XYZ axis. An orc that\'s under Kelethin can still hit me even if I\'m on top of the highest house of the city.

It also makes exceptions for monsters to go through things marked as objects, since they are not players, they\'re walking objects, and they\'re etheral...
yes that does suck.  
I have a story about this too...
I was watching a dog-like creature randomly moving about, and it happened to walk straight into this 50ft (15.2m) tall pillar.  And as it did, it instantly moved 50ft up to the top of the pillar, walked across the top, then instantly moved 50ft back down to the ground... unharmed.  What a horrible thing to look at.
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2003, 10:57:56 pm »
and another from me...

Every enemy in the game is faster than you.  Unless your character is buffed to all hell with Spirit Of Wolf (speed magic) and such, he/she is a complete wuss.  Any stronger-than-you mob you piss off will kill you whether you run or not.
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2003, 11:27:01 am »
i bet non of you bothered to get past lvl 15 =p

its a very in-depth game... its fricken 5 gigs man!

err..i mean... eq sux!

p.s.  meh... no one like eq the first time they play.

and you can change the controls any way you like... ps actully has a pretty similar interface...
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2003, 05:44:16 pm »
hmmm why EQ sucks? Lets see you shell out around a hundred dollars to get all the maps as they come out and then on top of that you have pay a monthly fee.

Now that is sucky.
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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2003, 06:13:49 pm »
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hmmm why EQ sucks? Lets see you shell out around a hundred dollars to get all the maps as they come out and then on top of that you have pay a monthly fee.

Now that is sucky.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!

You didn\'t get it yet didn\'t you?  The monthly fee is to keep getting money from the game, and the expansions are to keep you interested, making you pay more monthly fees to actually play those expansions.  It\'s a vicious and unstoppable circle, since EQ has over 100 THOUSAND dedicated users.

Here\'s another reason EQ sucks, though.  You can end up in open sea if you don\'t pay attention on ferry boats on the main planet.  I\'ve fallen through many times while getting cofee, only to find out my corpse is at the bottom of an OCEAN and I couldn\'t possibly get it out, and GMs won\'t do it for me since they say \"it\'s your fault you too the ferry\"

So this means GMs in EQ and the XYZ axis in EQ suck, really badly.
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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2003, 06:47:19 pm »
AC Rules EQ any day, AC has monthly patches, some of them being HUGE, rather than coming out with an expansion every other frickin month. That means that they have new content every month for you to play with, and all you pay is the monthly fee. not to mention that with the 20 dollar purchase of the game, you get a 20 dollar mail in rebate.. >:-D

better than any other pay for play in the market in my opinion...
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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2003, 11:47:43 pm »
The \"It gets better at high levels\" argument.
And, you are forced to group or you cant advance.
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Originally posted by the very respectable kinshadow in this thread

I have had the same experience with Everquest.  I played the game for about a month before giving up.  The quests were silly and all I ever heard was , \"It gets better at higher levels.\"  Well, it should be enjoyeable at the lower levels too.  In addition, I think party\'s are great.  I like working/hunting in them, but I HATE being forced into them.  Especially for spell casters, EQ forces you to group or you can not advance.  If I want to sit down and play for two hours, I spend half my time finding party members.
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2003, 11:58:56 pm »
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The boring parts:
Killing the same critter 9000000000 times to hear a 16bit PCM of a bell go off (later replaced by a louder, better

quality bell in an upgrade. yay?)

Killing the same critter 9000000001 times to get enough money to by \"A sword\".

Playing a \'rogue\' who could do none of the following effectively, or in an interesting way: pick pockets, open

chests, find things, disarm traps (what are traps?) unlock doors (yeah... but why? oh... they\'ll add it two years

later in an expansion.  Expansion Feature: \"A few doors matter now\".

Taking 900000000 hours to kill 9000000000 critters that mattered.

Any trade skill. (putting 900000000 things in a box with 90000000000 other things to get 1000000000 things that no

one wants or cares about).

In other words, all the no-fun parts mimicked real life.
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2003, 03:16:56 am »
\"The boring parts:
Killing the same critter 9000000000 times to hear a 16bit PCM of a bell go off (later replaced by a louder, better

quality bell in an upgrade. yay?)

Killing the same critter 9000000001 times to get enough money to by \"A sword\".\"

and in what rpg do you not do this? =P

1. you can pickpocket other players if its pvp

2. Picklock is very usefull when raiding dungeons, can save alot of time. some places can only be reached with the help of picklock. (it really is a higher lvl thing.)

3. traps can be set by players or there in dungeons and places sometimese, someone who can set, disarm, or sense them is very helpfull

4. Really the only class that can lvl up (at a fast pace) alone are healers. What your really suspoused to do when your playing at 4:00 and noone\'s grouping is quest. (which i might add is the main part of eq as there is an uncountable amount of quests with tons still being discovered)

p.s. newbies almost NEVER quest.

its a pretty hard game to start playing in general
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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2003, 04:23:32 am »
Another thing that sucks...

Aggro.  
Enemies have no AI.  They only have 2 functions: \"do nothing\" or \"bum rush\".
Here\'s an example: my friend hits a beast with his high level character, then just stands there as the beast attacks him.  Since he has aggro, the idiot AI just keeps attacking him while I slowly and safely kill the beast with my low level character.  Hello?  Stupid AI?  Wake up, I\'m killing you and you don\'t seem to notice.

(And again, Please defend the game in another thread.  This thread is not a debate.  It is a completely one-sided display of \"why EQ sucks.\"  
One more time: Nothing Positive in this thread, please.)
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