Tobacco

[Melbourne]

First off did anyone notice the first guys post spelled cigar with a \"S\"?

And there already is a brewer job.  Why not make a industry out of making ale.  Everyone\'s so bent on tobacco, but the idea of alcohol should also be brought up here.

[Natrina]

Everyone\'s so bent on tobacco, but the idea of alcohol should also be brought up here.

 Nope, it shouldn\'t, the topic is the tabacco, not alcohol. That\'d be off topic.

 And pipes, well that\'s cool too, if it has cigars why not pipes?

[DepthBlade]

I want to start a tobacco farm ingame! That would be the greatest profession selling tobacco because everyone would be smoking it!

[Melbourne]

Originally posted by Natrina

 Nope, it shouldn\'t, the topic is the tabacco, not alcohol. That\'d be off topic.

I could get into it but I don\'t feel like it right now.

[Aztec_Brave]

No cigarettes in the game. I will not play the game if the include cigarettes! Why? Well it\'s obvious...

They didn\'t have cigarettes back then! (Hah! I bet you were expecting an anti-smoking rant!). I\'m all for pipes and cigars though, it adds the the atmosphere of the game. The game already has alcoholic drinks in it, and this is really just an extention, and having a fag is no worse then slicing someones head off with a sword. Actually it\'s better: You only harm yourself when you smoke! If you don\'t like it, don\'t smoke!

and if you want that stupid tobacco that badly then hve it, but i\'m just concerned about 9 yr olds thinking let\'s go smoke the *waterpipe* is a good statement to state.

And how many nine-year olds do you see playing MMORPGs?  

and dude they did have cigerette\'s in medievil time\'s tabbacco has been used by the human race for thousand\'s of year\'s (not to mention other kind\'s of plant\'s  ) the only difference is that they used a leaf to roll a cig not paper that came later...

Well, since tabacco is native to America, and since Medievil refers to Europe between something like 500-1400 AD, and America was discovered 1492 AD (and tobacco probably later then that), I have to conclude that they didn\'t have it in the middle ages. And the word cigarette refers to tobacco wrapped in paper, so if they rolled it in something different then it wasn\'t a cigarette.

If you\'re a heavy smoker, you\'ll need to smoke some tobacco from your pipe every X minutes. If not, your vision becomes shaky, and you will start to have a bit of trouble walking from shaking.

Firstly, this would kind of ruin the game, don\'t you think? Secondly, I\'m a smoker, I\'ve currently gone nearly a week without smoking and I have suffered none of the above.

[Zackery]

But, rumblebelly the didn\'t call em\' cigarettes in middle ages.

[smoak]

i dont think they should put it in right now we dont need to add to the \"video games are a bad influence \" thing


and tanyo i think your in the wrong place

[Zackery]

Okay, tabbaco, then aclhole.... What next drugs.

[Bathiir]

I am all for the smoking, I\'d prefer to see pipes, but paper and leaves are good too.

I don\'t like the vison idea, the health getting lower idea I don\'t really care for.

The only problem is, like some said, their parents won\'t let them play if they see that. I don\'t understand why, because you have people being killed, but I do know some parents are like that.

[Orikhra]

I think pipes and the like should be implanted but just to give your charcter a more realistic life and therefore giving way to more RPing opertunities. The only downside to smoking would be that you would become addicted and you would have to buy them. Failure to keep up with your charcters addiction would resault in maybe a stats drop or something.

[Wannahavename_Dorak(Kanich)]

Well the game Morrowind has for example alcohol as a \"potion\" you can drink. But they aren\'t called \"Beer\" or something like that, they\'re called for example Sujamma. Thats the best way to include \"bad things\" (like alcohol, drugs and tobacco) into RPG\'s, just to make up names for them. Most \"children\" won\'t even know what it is if they\'re called something else. Then make the \"bad stuff\" decrease agility or intelligence on the character.

[Draageos]

Originally posted by Wannahavename_Dorak(Kanich)
Well the game Morrowind has for example alcohol as a \"potion\" you can drink. But they aren\'t called \"Beer\" or something like that, they\'re called for example Sujamma. Thats the best way to include \"bad things\" (like alcohol, drugs and tobacco) into RPG\'s, just to make up names for them. Most \"children\" won\'t even know what it is if they\'re called something else. Then make the \"bad stuff\" decrease agility or intelligence on the character.

They\'re not trying to hide it in SWG...
They have openly implemented drugs and alcohol - you both get downers and vommit when using certain drugs.
All things considered I would say that Starwars G would be characterized as pretty mainstream.

[PerfectShag]

i didn\'t bother reading through most of the messages, i got the idea from the first ten. all i have to say is that, i\'m a person who smokes, and i made that decision. i know people who don\'t smoke, and they have made that decision too. i know people who were heavy smokers, but succesfully quit, and it was their decision. every person has the freedom to choose and is responsible for his own fate. give \'em tobacco and let them choose

[Icefalcon]

At first I was going to say...Yeah! I wan\'t a pipe!

But after reading Moogie\'s post, I changed my mind. You are right Moogie, of course...

[Reikar]

I personally believe that pipes, water pipes, etc should be in the game, but not now.

This is something better discussed when the game has been implemented, balanced out,and when they are ready to work on the smaller details.

Right now this discussion is getting overly heated and doing nothing but going in circles, so how about we wait awhile and when it comes up again later, do a poll. This way we can get a good idea about how many people are for it, against it, and that don?t really care.