I just wanted to post a link to a photo of JC. You dont need to understand french to enjoy looking this beautiful photo... (... hmmm in fact i hope its the good one ...). Anyway I am sure Drey will like it
http://www.actualite.lycos.fr/une/photos.php?ref=060104183659.nt2239jt&id=1

Yeah same on me... its my president :p

it\"s not a big problem but it\'s quite strange: the cal3d models must be about 2kb big and, in fact, the updater require a lot of time (like if it was 2mb (if you understand wat i mean))

NB : if there is already a post about that bug (and it could be possible) I would be sorry but wont feel responsible of the double post (i searched and fund no useful post with cal3d in its title).

relightning ojaroad map makes pssetup crash

Relightning map /planeshift/art/world/ojaroad01.zip

crystalspace.maploader:
  The flag for render priorities is no longer needed
fken@posseidon:/usr/local/bin/planeshift/planeshift$      

One idea i had on the irc chan:

xordan: another wish : a way to gain xp without killing just by missing traps

fken, that would be the finding traps skill

stfrn: not really what i mean

stfrn: ill give you an example

stfrn: a very old nation of magicians created a full trapped citadel
stfrn: but they all have been decimated
stfrn: but you can enter their trapped citadel... where thre is no monster
 Signoff: rnappi ()
stfrn:a lot of part will be trapped and you will be able to gain xp each time you success by reaching one point
fken, yes that is possible

it means that you passed the trap
well, it deepnds I guess
it could be you have an area marked as a trap
as soon as you enter you get one chance to use the skill \"detect traps\", and if that fails you get hit by something
in addition, why not have traps on the corpse that will force a dice roll to see if it goes off or not.  could have treasure chests that act as corpses as well.
which could be just being locked in, or could be a monster appearing
stfrn: and moreover it would be a very nice way for thieves to gain xp because they will be able to untrapp and so they will be able to pass the trapseasier

NB : I erased the other discussions

I\'m wondering if a reaction of the npc toward the unpoliteness is planned.
For example:
you need a holy script, you go visiting the good npc and you say: \"holy script\"
It would be fine if there would be a kind of \"charisma magic\": the npc understand you but react toward you as if you were several charisma points less for a little time.
if you would have said : \"can i have the holy scipt please\" you wouldnt have lost your charisma points.

But, it\'s not only a problem of unpoliteness!

If you have to speak to a rogue, beeing too polite wont help you and the rogue will laugh at you (the charisma could be decreased if you are too polite ;-) )

I was playing ps (its rare since the wipe to see me leveling) and I just bought my first sword point since the wipe.

I killed rogues in the sewers without problems (my char with 80 was everytime dodging). And I just went to ojaveda for the falka quest. I tried to kill some rats to keep on increasing the sword point I bought.

And

I saw a rogue. I tried to fight him and as it worked I continue until his end (I dont look at the system channel and as I thought he was moving I didnt runaway) : then a guy sent me a /tell saying I were an exploiters and a cheaters and that he will say everything because people like me are bad ...

 ?(

Off course reading what he wrote, I felt insulted and said him I thought he could be more respectful.

Still no respect he kept on behaving like that

At this time I thought my char had dodged every hits. And i said that I could give my log to him. But I was kidding

he said yes

I answered that I wont go offline just to show him Im true I dont need to prove anything to that guy! And I add I am older than him on the game so he could respect a little more. I add I dispise this kind of pride behaviour.

He said I am the one who is proud because I said i was older.

At this time I was wondering why I chose to answer to that kind of guy... maybe is it a child and he is more annoying than anything else. I thought before I knew him but I am not sure now...

I said I was here since more than one year and I know that he is here since the beginning of the years : he answered of course the same kind of useless things.

And in fact I certainly said dumb things too.

Im not that kind of guy who ignore people ; I prefer speaking and let things in peace.

His name is not important but

I think the guy\'s name isnt important but I dislike the way people are behaving sometimes especially with the newbee but with the other members of the community. The issues in the game (such like wipes and others) make people more aggressive sometimes and I really regret that...

I hope you understand my message : if you speak to someone please be careful that people in front of you is allowed (at least !) to be respected.

This guy annoyed me and destruct all my hapiness...

Like PS isnt an english or american forum but an international one, I think it would be nice to show our way of life - the one which is specific to our own country.

And, even if I liked the \"favorite music\" thread I think something is missing in that thread: our identity...

So, I create this thread and ask you to participate by displaying lyrics of your country\'s bands that you like.

But,

Be careful, only copy/paste lyrics isnt enough. No problem to display it in your primary language however you will have to sum up the lyrics in english.

You can present the band too.

PS: off course american and english people can present Britney Spears and David Bowie if they want (eh! they live in the good country to speak about american or british bands following this thread rule...)

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France : Tryo

presentation of the group:
With an ironic point of view and own voices, tryo is a band which criticize the today\'s world. In almost each music it\'s like if they become another character: in one case a guy who feel he is more intelligent than his neighbourhood, in another case it\'s a guy who fund friends thanks to his money and finally realize his only friend is his dog, in another case it\'s someone who cant breathe because someone doent like his life (althought its what everyone is calling a good life), in another case its a palestinian who choose to become a human bomb and dont see that he is manipulated. They criticize our society and americanism, individualism, our government who is stealing the people and wanting to see the bad teenagers sent in jails, and they even criticize Paris.

type : Ska - raggae accoustic

It is hard to understand by a foreigner because the lyrics are often well worked with a lot of style effects...

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Tryo - Ballade en foret :
H?, j\'crois qu\'j\'ai besoin d\'un peu d\'air frais
D\'une ballade en for?t, j\'sais plus trop c\'que j\'fais
La vie use
H?, j\'aime pas du tout c\'que j\'fais, mais bon j\'ai une bonne paye
J\'suis un homme m?re, j\'ai des m?mes, une voiture
H?, tu sais mon choix est fait, j\'peux plus revenir en arri?re
Tu parles d\'une carri?re dans une firme plan?taire
H?, j\'fais parti des gens qui gagnent leur argent sur notre atmosph?re
H?, j\'fais parti des gens qui gagnent leur argent sur l\'ashme de leurs enfants
H?, j\'crois qu\'j\'ai besoin d\'un peu d\'air frais
D\'une ballade en for?t j\'sais plus trop c\'que j\'fais
La vie use
H?, j\'aime pas du tout c\'que j\'fais, mais bon j\'ai une bonne paye
J\'suis un homme m?re, j\'ai des m?mes, une voiture
H?, apr?s tout j\'ai choisi, ainsi va la vie et le monde vieillit
H? dans 3 ans c\'est la retraite, j\'sauverai pas la plan?te
J\'vais pas m\'prendre la t?te, pas m\'prendre le t?te non
H?, j\'fais parti des gens qui vous laisse un futur avec emmerdement
Et tonnes d\'ordures
Moi, j\'fais parti des gens qui vous laisse un futur bourr? d\'armement
Au minimum d\'air pur
H? faut pas compter sur moi, j\'ai rat? ma jeunesse, j\'profiterai d\'la vieillesse
H? faut pas compter sur moi, dans c\'bordel ya plus qu\'toi, dans c\'bordel ya plus qu\'toi
H? toi t\'es celui qui r?ve, je t\'envie, j\'en cr?ve que ma vie est triste
Que la vie est triste
H?, je sais pas combien tu es, j\'te laisse mes regrets et mon amertume
Parce que moi, j\'fais parti des gens qui ont v?cu grassement, qui t\'laisse un h?ritage
Parce que moi, j\"\'fais parti des gens qui ont traverser les temps sans faire de sentiments
Et apr?s, et apr?s, et apr?s, et apr?s
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-> An almost old guy is saying he is lost even if he has a soooo good life (refering to what people call a good life) and however he doesnt like what he is doing.
He feels guilty because he knows he polluted and is still polluting because he know his children will be ill because of his behaviour...
In fact, its the story of a guy who feels sad and guilty but find excuses to not try to change that... he is giving to you the key of a world he destroyed saying he wasnt able to do anything to change the world and still dont want to help you to change anything...
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Tryo - D?sol? pour hier soir

R?veil matin 15 heures, j\'me r?veille comme une fleur, marguerite,
dans le Macadam a besoin d\'un doliprane
R?veil matin 15 heures, j\'me r?veille comme une fleur, ?a va les gars bien dormi ?
pas de r?ponse tant pis

Putain les gars abus? qui c\'est qui a fini le caf? ? oh ?a va, ?a va tu vas Pas nous gonfler
Qu\'est ce qui a guiz\' t\'as quelque chose ? me dire? ben hier t\'?tais pas Bourr?, ouais, t\'?tais pire ! oh!
Prise de conscience 16 heures j\'fais mine d\'aller me coucher je mets les mains Dans les poches
D?file le cours de ma soir?e les tickets de carte bleue quelques tickets de Caisse me font remonter le temps oh putain merde, ma caisse !
Ta Ferrari n\'est pas l? ? tu n\'la pas prise avec toi ? t\'as du la laisser au Milieu du parking du macumba
J\'ai la m?moire qui flanche et les yeux rouges et en plus, surprise ! dans ton Lit ?a bouge
Sur ce coup la man t\'as ?t? un homme t\'as ramen? le crois? de Jackie Sardou et D\'un pok?mon
T\'as du style, t\'as du style, t\'as du style h?? mon fr?re, quand tu vois double Tu ram?nes de la bombe nucl?aire.

D?sol? pour hier soir d\'avoir fini ? l\'envers
La t\'eate dans l\'cul, l\'cul dans l\'brouillard
Les gars d?sol? pour hier
D?sol? pour hier soir d\'avoir fini ? l\'envers
Promis demain j\'arr?te de boire, hier c\'?tait la derni?re

Bon ben salut, on s\'appelle0
Fille remerci?e 17heures je provoque une assembl?e
J\'ai des relents de gin de vodka de sky et de sak?
T\'as l\'?il qui part en vrille, y a des coins dans vos sourires
On me cache quelque chose qu\'ai-je pu bien faire de pire
Fallait mani-mani-manier mieux la nuit man
Arr?te l\'alcool tu deviens grave
Fallait mani-mani-manier mieux la nuit man
Arr?te l\'alcool tu deviens grave

Mais je sais pas, rappelez moi, j\'me souviens pas les gars
Ben, t\'?tais grave hein ? t\'as p?t? ton c?ble, souviens toi
H? ho, h? ho ! t\'es mont? sur l\'chapiteau accroch? au cordage
T\'as failli t\'aplatir comme un blaireau
H? ho, h? ho ! tu voulais pas redescendre
Quitte ? vivre en hauteur c\'est mieux que de se pendre

D?sol? pour hier soir d\'avoir fini ? l\'envers
La t\'eate dans l\'cul, l\'cul dans l\'brouillard
Les gars d?sol? pour hier
D?sol? pour hier soir d\'avoir fini ? l\'envers
Promis demain j\'arr?te de boire, hier c\'?tait la derni?re
Fallait mani-mani-manier mieux la nuit man
Arr?te l\'alcool tu deviens grave
Fallait mani-mani-manier mieux la nuit man
Arr?te l\'alcool tu deviens grave

Me voila donc fin pr?t pour de nouvelles r?solutions
Un esprit de saintet? dans un super corps de champion
Me voila donc pr?t j\'me colle devant la t?l? soupe aux l?gumes bol de th?
Et qu\'on me foute la paix
Si faut qu\'on puisse ? ce point ?tre mal le lendemain
Dans son canap\', dans son canap\' on est bien
A quoi bon sortir se foutre la guerre
Plus jamais j\'vous jure, plus jamais comme hier
\"h? mali !\"0
H? ho, h? ho! qu\'est c\'que tu fais avec ton verre d\'eau ?
C\'est l\'anniv\' ? titi aller on va se taper l\'ap?ro
H? ho, h? ho ! aller mali-mali bouge tes fesses
T\'as promis ? titi il faut tenir ses promesses

Et d?sol? pour ce soir si je finis ? l\'envers
Mali, on s\'retrouve au comptoir, titi f?te son anniversaire
Et d?sol? pour ce soir si je finis ? l\'envers
Apr?s celle la j\'arr?te de boire, laissez moi juste la derni?re
Fallait mani-mani-manier mieux la nuit man
Arr?te l\'alcool tu deviens grave
Fallait mani-mani-manier mieux la nuit man
Arr?te l\'alcool tu deviens grave

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-> It\'s the story of a guy who wakes up a morning and dont remember what he did the previous night... he realizes he was drunk, apologizes to his friends because of his behaviour (feeling very guilty) and swear to his friend he will never do this again thinking he was too far the previous night...

And finally others friends arrive and tell to him there is another party for the birthday of another friend and ...

he will be drunk again...

he has alcohol problems...

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Tryo - Pas pareil

C\'est pas qu\'on s\'sente diff?rents
Ou bien qu\'on juge la vie
Mais qu\'est-ce qu\'on s\'sent loin des gens
Quand on survole la ville sur son tapis
Et rire des gueules de d?terr?s
Au fond du m?tro parisien
Mais nous c\'est pas pareil
On est crev? quand on s\'l?ve le matin

Au prolo qui s\'?nerve
Accroch? ? sa voiture ? cr?dit
A chaque feu rouge qui tra?ne
Dans les embouteillages de sa vie
A la fine rayure
Sur la carrosserie de sa connerie
Si ch?re si sacr?e et si dure
Que sa femme ? c?t? se plie

Sa femme qui fait marcher
A elle seule tout le t?l?-achat
Les feux d\'l\'amour
Ou les navets de Foucault
D\'Voici ? Gala
? croire qu\'?a les arrange
De laisser s\'agglutiner les cons
?a f\'ra d\'l\'abruti pour demain
D\'la chasse d\'la p?che des traditions

C\'est pas qu\'on s\'sente diff?rent
Quoique des fois un peu si
On comprend pas bien les gens
Alors on s\'exclut de la partie
Un sentiment bizarre
Que le monde est peupl? de cr?tins
Mais nous c\'est pas pareil
On dit pas qu\'on regarde TF1

Mais nous c\'est pas pareil...

Alors o? est cach?e
La fine cr?me du genre humain
Qui vote son Le Pen au mois de mai
Qui r?ve de Heider pour demain
Qui voudrait faire la peau
A tous les grilleurs de priorit?
Ou qui paye 100 euros pour voir la Dion
Ou Hallyday bourr?

A l\'id?e qu\'on se fait
Du monde et de ses al?as
On est toujours le con de quelqu\'un
Mais mon voisin le sait pas
Alors quand il hurle au silence
Je monte le son rien que pour lui
Vive les beaufs et vive la France
J\'assume ma connerie m?me la nuit

C\'est pas qu\'on s\'sente diff?rents
Ou bien qu\'on juge la vie
Mais qu\'est-ce qu\'on s\'sent loin des gens
D?s qu\'ils donnent tous ensemble leur avis
Mais nous c\'est pas pareil
Son avis on le garde pour soi
Para?t qu\'on est tous un peu con
D?s qu\'on est un peu plus de trois

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-> it\'s a guy who judges the others saying he feels he is different and cant understand the others because of their strange behaviours... but in fact, the guy who is judging isnt very very different...
and the conclusion : \"Para?t qu\'on est tous un peu con
D?s qu\'on est un peu plus de trois\"
It seems that everyone are a little dumb once they are a little more than 3 persons in a group...