Silly, Unrealistic Names

[Harwen]

Gronomist and Seytra make this a happy post

Great way to look at it Gronomist, I just don\'t see why all of us can\'t think that way  

- I don\'t like you, you don\'t get that name! ....

Well, I\'m sure there are people(cough) who are fair (cough), and that the Dev\'s could trust (cough). I mean, you could say that about GM\'s as well...

[Kiva]

Originally posted by Harwen
Great way to look at it Gronomist, I just don\'t see why all of us can\'t think that way  

That would be because most of us have no clue what a RPG is all about. And do we care? No. We just play the game because we\'re bored and need something to do, so we all grow fat from McDonalds food and lazy from just clicking our mice. We come to the point in our lives where we think RPG is point and click with no active thinking, and we find games which have these features repulsive, so we create a character named \"FALFDAFKDJFSDfjsdfsdfj123123123\" and say \"Hahahahunubs omfg j00000 lolololololmaolmaolmao jajajajajajaj\", and so if people are required to think already when they\'re making their character, we\'re eliminating the worst part of an MMORPG... Or maybe not... But we\'re allowed to dream, aren\'t we?

Full ACK!
How can one even _think_ about RP if something so essential and also basic as a NAME isn\'t even made to fit the setting? Or would you name your baby \"killerv\"?!?!? It would IMO not even do for some MechWarrior game...

That\'s exactly what I said, yes.

[Harwen]

Originally posted by Gronomist
That would be because most of us have no clue what a RPG is all about. And do we care? No. We just play the game because we\'re bored and need something to do, so we all grow fat from McDonalds food and lazy from just clicking our mice. We come to the point in our lives where we think RPG is point and click with no active thinking, and we find games which have these features repulsive, so we create a character named \"FALFDAFKDJFSDfjsdfsdfj123123123\" and say \"Hahahahunubs omfg j00000 lolololololmaolmaolmao jajajajajajaj\",

Hahaha, speak for yourself

But really, some people just have to learn to not be ridiculous when coming up with this stuff. And people have to realize that PS is special, its not something like EQ or Runecrap, or Tibia, or FF11, where nobody could give a rat\'s defication hole to what you put your name as. The biggest problem would be that very notion of moderating the names.

I would personally like to be a name police man and report them in as I saw them. Yeah, that\'d make me feel all protective. The GM could keep me from being all spastic and impusive I guess.....

[Seytra]

So what will we need?

1) an easily accessible way for reporting: like a (rightclick on other char) menu with an option \"report this name\"

2) a marker that says \"already reported\" in that menu instead after it was reported

3) a way of making sure this system isn\'t abused, possibly by logging who reported the name, i.e., if the report is unjustified, it\'s easy to haunt the reporter. Also a restriction of when one can start reporting, like after a month of playtime...

For the record: I\'m _not_ into nit-picking and reporting anything that might be against any silly rule, BUT I\'m all for strictly enforcing the important rules, and naming _is_ important as we (well most of us ) agree.
So I\'ll be reporting names but not (for example) the occasional OOC in the IC world, obviously. Balance and common sense is what I try to let guide me. Doesn\'t always work, but better than not even trying.

[theRealGorbulas]

What?! I can\'t name myself G???????!

[FESFES]

Originally posted by Gronomist
FESFES, you might want to change to your creative side for a moment. Killerv isn\'t exactly a fantasy name, it\'s rather a nickname from a bad sci-fi movie (that is my honest oppinion - sorry if it hurts you, but it\'s true). When creating your character, think more along the lines of a \"name\". Imagine yourself in the situation where you and your wife have just got a baby and you have to name it. Be creative, think of your character as a living person, not just some flat, pixelthing on your sreen. After all, it is your little baby, you have to name it, protect it, and make sure it doesn\'t die.

Originally posted by Seytra
Full ACK!
How can one even _think_ about RP if something so essential and also basic as a NAME isn\'t even made to fit the setting? Or would you name your baby \"killerv\"?!?!? It would IMO not even do for some MechWarrior game...

No i plan on naming my first child Seytra and my second Gronomist.........my 4th will be FlyingV my 5th will be KillerV....my 472096529229th will be G?!

[Danny]

Where did your third go?

personaly i think players should be able to call their.. and i stress their ... alt what they want.. it doesnt reck anything because as most of you know the name wont be on show any way.. so i really dont see what the fuss is about??  ?(

Many thanks,
   Danny  )

[Kiva]

No i plan on naming my first child Seytra and my second Gronomist

Sure, go ahead and name your characters that, however don\'t cry if you get permanently banned for impersonation of a very important person - me - and... yeah... Whatever that other person was called.

(That was a joke of course, Seytra)

personaly i think players should be able to call their.. and i stress their ... alt what they want.. it doesnt reck anything because as most of you know the name wont be on show any way.. so i really dont see what the fuss is about??

The fuss is about this being a RPG. If people can\'t make RPG names, they ruin the RPG mood, thus turning it into something diffrent than an RPG. A character\'s name isn\'t \"just\" a name, it\'s the essense of who you are. You can be a great hunter or a well known merchant, but your name is still what represents you, and what would make you look more stupid than being called \"DangerJoe\" standing with a pickaxe and ragged clothes? It\'s stupidity we don\'t want in this game, and stupidity through names is one thing we can get rid of. If people can\'t think of a proper name, how on earth are they supposed to deal with quests? Tell me that.

[Orikhra]

Black rose, chill man. And i appriciate if u didnt call the people who want to stamp out names that do not fit into the game name nazis.

its not supposed to be realistic its supposed to be a fantasy

So your saying people can call themselves \'UB3R-R0B0T\' how does that fit into the fantasy bit?

[Seytra]

Yeah, I\'m a name-nazi! I like that! I\'m totally against free will, yeah! That\'s what I\'m trying to get accross

I\'ll go and create the guild, then, as it\'s public now anyway

I think we have a case of a troll here! Actually, two of them... (FESFES and black_rose)

Back on topic: @Danny:
While it of course _is_ _their_ alt, it _also_ affects other ppl. in the game. It should be clear by now why in a fantasy setting names like 1337killah are simply not appropriate.
Imagine that your countries\'s leader was called like that, or if you prefer, one of your teachers or whoever. I couldn\'t take them seriously, and I\'d have an extremely hard time saying
\"Greetings, mylord 1337killah, I must report that the enemy spy has been caught and is now being questioned by the high inquisitor\".
You can see how the silliness ruins the whole sentence that otherwise perfectly fits the setting. After all, your name isn\'t just what you refer to and see, others will have to deal with it, too. Not choosing one that fits shows that you lack respect for the other players and for the game as a whole. THE NAME IS PART OF THE GAME!
In a program, you can refer to any variable aw whatever you want, but try to explain to your employer or any other programmer why you called the variable \"53x60d\"...
Yuo can also refer to yourself as \"My Uber1337ness\", but I don\'t think you\'ll make it far with that. Why should this game be different?

Basically, it\'s the same reason why you can\'t run through a city shouting \"I\'m 1337killah!\": public annoyance. So there, imagine everybody doing this and you\'ll see why it must be prohibited.

It\'s a GAME, so EVERYBODY (not just you) should have fun. Therefore, you can\'t do as you like, you need to abide by some rules. Is it really this important for you to have such a name? Don\'t you care about others having the right to have fun as much as you do? Once you are not alone somewhere, you can\'t do what you want anymore at least not completely, because otherwise you\'d take the other ppls. freedoms away. This is why you can\'t go and kill anybody who annoys you. It\'s also why you can\'t steal. (well, you _can_, but you\'ll be punished).

[Harwen]

Well, well, well....


@ Danny @ Everything that he\'s ever said:

Again, sorry to say, that you\'re point is very weak. You\'re just repeating yourself without really giving much of a point across.

Its just childish not to see that someone else has a valid point. I understand that you might be one of those \"taking the 1st amendment too-far\" type of people, but all and all, its not really anything that belongs to you. Since PS is free, it belongs to everyone, so rules that are fair for everyone shoud be a priority. Like the whole day/night thing....it needs to be fair. You\'re basically telling us that you don\'t think that it should be Night because you\'re scared of the dark.

Perhaps you should play a real RPG and maybe you\'ll \"Get what all the fuss is about\" or maybe you should just read.

@ black_rose: Well, its really what Danny is (failing) to get through to us. It does ruin the RP\'ing experience. No, its not a real world, its a game, but then you should go tell that to the RP people, (can you say flame? ) they\'ll tell you the same thing. Its a game, where you pretend to be a real person. I.E. Role Playing.

Continuing to say \"Its just a game\" that its \"not a real world, its a fantasy world\" is just playing with semantics. Pure and simple. Real people aren\'t named 1337 5up3rm4n. Seriously.

But of course, I\'m sure my argument can be torn to shambles by a simple \"Bunch of Babies\" post, because that\'s not  toally BS.

[Black_rose]

@harwan,
       i like the way that you have a mind that is capible of holding an arguement without being a jerk and without just plain repeating. that is a hard trait to find in someone. i have trouble sometimes frasing my words so they dont sound mean i add humor and stuff to make it sound a lil better but it is a fantasy but you are not alowed to fantasise in it for just a name. many people say \"well its for there own good\" but the people who make the numbers might have a personal meaning to it. like it might be the year someone in there family died or something like that. so you see names can be humorous everyone wants this game to be as real as possible but then if it is as real as possible you will get bored with it and also if it is as real as posible it will destroy the whole point of an \"altenate reality\" because you guys start with something small like names next you will try to change magic to archery and then all the monsters and races you might try to change to humans with different builds. there is no winning because people who set limits on names in video games. they set themselves up for failure
@seytra,
i did not get what you meant at all. other than me stripping others of rights. it wont make the game mutch less fun at all if there are people with numbers in there name. think of henry the 8th? or henry8 for short there was millions of great kings/queens/emporers/emresses/ect.ect. with numbers in there names. and most players dont call their in game friends by their first name mostly by a fragment 1337killah would be called killah instead. think of it that way

[Karyuu]

Hahah... ah man, after watching this thread for quite some time, I don\'t think I can keep quiet anymore... Black_rose, I don\'t think you -quite- understand what others are trying to say. I don\'t think \"fantasy MMORPG\" registers with you. How does the name \"killah\" fit into a fantasy setting? Have you ever read a good fantasy novel where the main character had the name of \"killah,\" or \"l337killah,\" or some other such nonsense? You\'re right, it -is- just a game, but it has a specific setting and specific rules. Calm down a little bit as well. Getting aggravated and giving into anger will in no way bring you respect.

You also seem to think that the people and devs will take away all the \"fantasy\" elements, such as magic and monsters. But in fact, -you- would be taking away the fantasy if you allowed unreal names.

Your character is supposed to have a history, a personal story. Please explain to me how a character\'s mother named him or her \'killah,\" and how that fits into Planeshift\'s world. The fact is, it doesn\'t. There\'s no way it ever will :)

This is how this game works. If you don\'t like it, you are -always- free to go try something else. But your ideas truly have no foundation, I\'m sorry to say.

[Black_rose]

who says it was the mother that named them that? well i started a book about a man (forget the name) that was highly wounded in battle but his body was signed up for genetic research and the tinkered and so he became a pyro, he was well known amoung soldiers as torch but that was not the reason, the reason was that he had killed off over 500 men with one flamethrower in an hour.

[Waylander]

Yeah...you people DO realize that you might get banned from the game to make room for other, better, roleplaying people if PS starts to get crowded?  Just thought you might want to know... don\'t do drugs.

Oh I want to be a gm in CB; Shadow Khan becomes: THE KHAN

hmm, yeah keep power away from me would be the best idea