Thus it ends.

[ThomPhoenix]

@ Cherppow:
What a great mod, I love it! 

[Proglin]

@ Proglin: You sir, have a deal. I just have to create a character that can drink you under the table first.

TEEHEE! Good luck!  

Other then that... the solution you had, in creating non fatal duelling is awsome! Then again... it might give new problems... like more and more people duelling everywhere, cause you're not dying from it anyway. If it's done.. there have tobe two different options, and a system of where to use these two different outcomes of a duel.

[Vengeance]

We have long wanted to make a yield feature that would prevent death in duels, but for now it is the player's choice whether to die or not.  What we're really lacking is a yield animation, where the character gets on his knees and begs the opponent to stop (which he auto-would, of course)...

- Vengeance

[Mirashi]

Talk about humiliation. I wouldn't wanna get on me knees and beg, I'd rather die...well my character would, I myself would beg. xP

[Mykentros]

Think realistically.  If you've seen death, seen your freinds die by your side, would you be that willing to die?  In this case it sounds like the willingness to die is more of a sign of pride than bravery.  Of course this would be perfectly fine if your character is a pompus.  Of course, it appears death is treated much differently in Yliakum (Death Realm or no Death Realm, it says in the player guide that corpses are simply thrown away  )

[Mirashi]

Exactly. It shouldn't be an auto-command for your character to humiliate himself, he should be able to choose once his health gets low (or about to die) to either yield, or accept death.

[Shadow Hea]

From what you said the tournaments sound like they were a lot of fun. Sorry to hear it has to come to an end

[Xylaal]

 Proglin, when I entered this game, a silly noob about a half year ago, I remember walking around the Hydlaa Square hearing excitement in the other characters who would talk about an upcoming tournament. It added to the hustle and bustle in the square making everyone feel a part of something; even those who never went to your tournament, those who were just in earshot of that electricity were happy to hear it making the world more real.

I did go however. I made sure I was there to observe and it was amazing for a noob to see such an event for the first time. So many characters, all those people in the room cheering on the combatants and the Rp conversation between folks that would errupt as I walked around listening in and, yes, the non-RP's enjoying themselves as well. What an experience for a noob. I went to others after that first one, and auctions too...they all were just as exciting and after every one I would shut my computer with a satisfied smile. I thank you for making my Planeshift experience so special. 

 

[Verrliit]

Proglin, I hope that you will not give up just yet.

Your creativity, and talent for organizing events, have brought much joy to many.

As for why you feel this way...

I certainally don't have a problem with events like these, they are well thought out and fun... and I don't see how making the game is destroying the community. What a GM can and can't do has nothing to do with game development, or with 95% of the devs, so please don't make inane comments like that. It's only the rules that GM have to follow which have changed.

Players can only guess what you designed. 

But we know better than anyone, what you actually built.

So when the leading players of PS say that rules are harming, or even destroying the community, who are you to say that they are wrong?

All of us, all GMs were unhappy with the rules set out for us when it comes to helping player events. However, many of us were new and just made GMs and it was hard to challenge rules you were just introduced to.

The first mistake was not publishing the GM rules.

I understand the frustrations people feel - I often share them. But why is it that I so rarely hear complaints until a bandwagon is rolled around and everyone jumps onto it?

To be blunt, most of them have been flame-locked or deleted, before a bandwagon could form.

Talad is the guy who handles GM rules....

We don't care who made the mistakes we find, we just want them fixed, and are doing our best to help.

Karyuu, I would like to know what dev told the GMs not to help with player events.

I support these tournaments 1000% and have even thought about adding support directly into the game for tournaments, including bracketing windows, entrance fees and wagering.  It is greatly disappointing to hear it said that wanting to excel in tournaments "isn't RP".  Good god people.  Snap out of it.  That's like saying "it isn't RP" for you to eat the little dots in Pac-Man.

Proglin, you have my full support.  If anyone gives you grief, please refer them to me.

- Vengeance

For your voice of reason, and for your continuing respect and support for the players, you have my heartfelt thanks.


~Verrliit~

[Xordan]

So when the leading players of PS say that rules are harming, or even destroying the community, who are you to say that they are wrong?

Leading players? That's quite elitist. I try and see all players opinions without favouritism. I don't like people who rate their opinions as worth more than others because they've got more ingame hours. I don't remember saying that people are wrong about this issue anyway, if you'd read my reply properly. I'm totally in support of events like these. Saying that developing the game is destroying the community however is crap as it has nothing to do with rules made for GMs.

We don't care who made the mistakes we find, we just want them fixed, and are doing our best to help.

Right, and we're working on it.

[Karyuu]

Verrliit, what the heck is your problem?

So when the leading players of PS say that rules are harming, or even destroying the community, who are you to say that they are wrong?

What dev in this thread has disagreed that the rules should be changed? Please stop putting words in our mouths and looking for every little chance to poke at us with your jabbing fingers.

To be blunt, most of them have been flame-locked or deleted, before a bandwagon could form.

What the taco are you talking about? Please name me one thread that has been flame-locked or deleted about the player-events rule.

[Mykentros]

Bah, it's usually best to ignore those kinds of posts.  On most sites they call those kinds of people trolls: people who post to try and reap the most responses possible, usually by saying something inflammatory.  A good course of action is usually to address any real concerns that they have (if any) and then just move on.  If they are a persistent troll, they probably already know better, and choose not to act that way (remember Datruth (a clever name, I admit, but definetly not RP) from only a few days ago?).  I do hate it when threads turn into flame wars.

-Myko

PS- I'm waiting for the reply where the troll then quotes several people (sometimes out of context) to "make his point"   Or if he (or she!) is really clever, just plain say something to generate a heated response.

[Datruth]

@Verrliit:

Elequent and right to the point, and he said it best, who cares who made the rule, let's just try and fix it for the good of the community.

I know we might not mean much to you guys(devs), but just once would you mind listenting to us?


Not just locking our thread, and then putting the last post.

Then modifying your post.

Then Having a fellow Dev come in , and re post, In a locked thread.

That's just pure forum ettiquette, if you're going to lock a thread, don't be the last to post, and if a thread is locked, don't use your forum privaleges to post in that locked thread.

You may be legally allowed to buy a gun in the U.S, but you can't kill innocent people with it. I think the theme could be, don't abuse your power and if you find a problem, fix it.

Do not quote an entire long post! And moreover, don't go ranting about power abuse when moderators and devs can always have the last word in a thread. --Karyuu[/color]

[neko kyouran]

I see nothing wrong with how the forum mods handle thier forum.

Edit, any time a thread gets locked, it is locked for a good reason, which is given by the mod posting it in the thread before locking.  This to prevent confusion as to why it was locked. 

Oh, and Verrliit is a she, not he. 

[Peacer]

maybe the flaming should stop and we should get back to topic and talk about memories (well you talk about memories i listen =P) support and how we are looking forward to proglins tournament, it would be sad to see the thread locked because of this..

And who knows, maybe a little nolthrir will hide somewhere and watch the last tournament from the entertainer.